Cormac and Calin interview Mike Hoag of Transformative Adventures. Michael is founder of Transformative Adventures, a collaborative organization for supporting local-scale transformative activists. He’s a Permaculture designer, teacher, and consultant who has participated in over 400 regenerative enterprise projects. He’s the author of 3 books and many pamphlets, including Growing FREE, a manual for regenerative livelihoods. His most recent book, The Beginner’s Landscape Transformation Manual, helps new and experienced gardeners alike, achieve easier, more productive gardens by transforming their landscapes into holistic systems. Growing FREE: https://growingfree.money/2022/11/02/growing-free-is-now-available-for-pre-order/ Your Money or Your Life by Vicky Robin and Joe Dominguez https://yourmoneyoryourlife.com/book/ Early Retirement Extreme, by Jacob Lund Fisker http://earlyretirementextreme.com/